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DAILY REPORTS and Documents index | iPNB Houston meeting info Daily notes from the iPNB meeting - Houston Sunday 9-22-02 |
9-22-02: Sunday
Apologies for name misspellings.
Intended AGENDA [ was radically altered ] 9:00 am National Office Move 9:45 am Station Reports (1) KPFT, general manager, LAB chair, community comment (2) WPFW, interim general manager, LAB chair, community comment (3) WBAI, general manager, LAB chair, community comment (4) KPFK, general manager, LAB chair, community comment (5) KPFA, interim general manager, LAB chair, community comment (include reports on Race and Nationality work at each station) 12:45 pm Short Break 1:00 am Race and Nationality next steps in this work 1:45 pm Personnel Committee Report 2:30 pm Adjourn Meeting Sunday, Sept.,22 8:30am Meeting convenes 9:04 am Directors present: David Fertig, Carol Spooner, Teresa Allen, Pete Bramson, George Barnstone, Leslie Cagan, Robbie Robinson, Janice K Bryant, Ray LaForest, Jabari Zakiya, James Ferguson, Charles Smith Not present: Bert Lee, Dick Gregory Chair Cagan welcomes the broadcast audience Gives revised Agenda... Adopt minutes from previous meetings MOTION:to delay adoption of (60 page)June minutes til next time iPNB meets 9 for 3 abstain MOTION:to adopt July 16 conference call meeting minutes 10 for 1 abstain MOTION:to adopt July 22 conference call meeting minutes 10 for 1 abstain [Charles Smith - new board member from Houston has been abstaining] MOTION:to adopt August 23 conference call meeting minutes 9 for 2 abstain La Forest - asks that his name be added to those minutes because was present. MOTION:to adopt August 30 conference call meeting minutes Fertig - request amend minutes part regarding wording of Berkeley move resolution - some discussion as to the details of the motion and Fertig withdraws motion 9 for 2 abstain MOTION:to adopt September 1 conference call meeting minutes 9 for 3 abstain National Office Move Chair Cagan - Execute Director attached a budget for the move to his report The issue of the move of the national office back to Berkeley first came up in January 2002 and at March meeting. Planning proceeded. In mid August there was request for a meeting to further discuss the move. The motion to move back to Berkeley is still in effect. Fertig - The motion in August was to delay planning until more information was available. The information is now in front of us and let's now proceed. Spooner - We don't really need a new motion to move as soon as possible as it is still in effect. Zakiya - The motion to move made in January failed because the information wasn't there yet. In March when the vote to separate the move of the finance office from the move of the national office failed when several of the D.C. directors were not present. The motion that passed in August was that planning for the move would stop, so there should be no information [ budget etc. ] at this meeting regarding the move. The bylaws revision is a priority, the move was not made a "hot item" in the settlement. Is angry that, when after he gathered information on probable cost and feasibility, people are attempting to disregard what he has presented, particularly when no hard data had been collected. The move to Berkeley effectively is a restructuring at a bad time. There many more important tasks. "There is no rational reason to rush this thing." Supports nullifying the move, and getting it out of the way, to let the next board deal with it. Bramson - Appreciates Jabari's input. Feels very about strongly about bringing the office back to Berkeley. There HAVE been cost and feasibility studies. Bryant - It is not accurate that the issue came out of the blue. Many people in the Pacifica community did know about the kidnapping of the office to D.C. Feels that one of the reasons the Jabari is against the move is convince for the directors from D.C. What is the accountant's opinion? LaForest - There are other reasons people are against the move besides convince. Let's not second guess each other. A main issue was that the information wasn't available yet. Cagan - Supports the move back. It is important to work on priority items, but it's is important to right the wrongs of the past. One of those wrongs was the theft of the office from Berkeley. The iPNB righted the wrong of the fired and banned at WBAI, the issue of station managers and other things with demanding feasibility studies. And there are no clear... [ miss end of statement] [ cheers and applause ] Spooner - Agrees with Cagan. It was reasonable to require a plan before the move. The iPNB now has the info. 73,9000 a year saved on rent by the office being in Berkeley. The total move is estimated at 120,000. It would be recovered in 2 years. We also have to hire permanent financial office staff. It this happens in D.C, then since the office will eventually move, people will be fired and disrupted. Currently that wouldn't happen, because Jasmine is working with temps. Also, the Berkeley community is very supportive and pledges to help raise funds for the move. We live in difficult political times. Pacifica has been a target. Feels that the home of the Washington power brokers should not be the home of Pacifica [ cheers and applause ] LaForest - We have conceptual and practical reasons for moving. The move is a national issue as opposed to the fired and banned issue (local issue). Doesn't agree that being at the belly of the beast is an issue. The practical issue is cost, which has been addressed. That leaves as main issue the accountant's assessment in terms of finance office organization. Reads recommended requirements [ ] [ mostly regarding staff ] Is in favor in moving, the question on how to do it in the least disruptive way Barry - Is the cost of the staff training ect. in the estimate? Cagan - asks Dan Coughlin to report Dan Coughlin - The move would not be made in an irresponsible manner. They have budgeted for staff travel and training. Spooner - Is there cost included regarding news staff. Barry - There is not [ some other staff cost considered ] Dan Coughlin - This is true. Fertig - Certain things wouldn't of happened without the listeners, and the iPNB needs to consider that the listeners want the office back in Berkeley even if it's not entirely a practical matter. Who is the iPNB to ignore this wish? We need to get the listeners feeling on this. Zakiya - "I'm going to try to raise the integrity of this debate" There is inaccurate information being given. Training and indirect costs are not being given. Not taking into account the operational impact of the move. The finance office never was in Berkeley, so technically this is a restructuring. This is a national issue. The people in D.C. haven't had a say. Despite what the listeners want, the responsibility of the iPNB to do the proper thing. This board is not able to make the right decision on this issue. Spooner doesn't really care what the cost. Let's be honest then and shove the numbers aside and talk about the political aspect. And the iPNB hasn't worked that out yet. Robinson - Is not against the move back to Berkeley. Concerned about the healing process at Pacifica and this issue has negatively affected the situation. Currently the national functions are falling apart (only one national program currently). Concerned with Pacifica's national strength. Supports creating a definite timetable for the move and that there a commitment to re-stenghten. If your going to in the business of slaying dragons, (what Pacifica does) you had better be prepared to go into the dragon's lair.[D.C.] Ferguson - When he came on last Nov. his aim was to be pragmatic. Concerned that, with the listeners' concern is to stabilize Pacifica and deal with the debt, that people want this move at a time when it is not realistic. Supports the move on a timetable Barry - Also supports the move but on a pragmatic timetable. Disagrees with Spooner LAB chairs and Station managers input invited: Susan Desilva, KPFA LAB -The listeners HAVE urged the move. Doesn't feel that the board is representative of the listeners [ sites statistics ] Lydia R , KPFK LAB - Profound discussions have taken place. 3 LABs have issued supportive statements for the move. Putting off the move creates problems for the executive director and putting staff together. There is an irrational posessiveness involved with opposing the move. Sam Husseini, WPFW LAB -WPFW LAB also voted by a slim margin to move the national back Berkeley, with no comment about the finance office. There are 10,000 reasons to move to Berkeley, the people who came out in the streets there to demonstrate the takeover of KPFA/Pacifica. [ applause ] It was difficult to get 12 people to out in D.C. Eva Georgia, KPFK station manager -The wishes of the listeners should be honored. Miguel Maldanado, WBAI LAB -The interest of the listeners was the main reason for regaining the network. The healing of the network is a priority and it's time for the move. Delay makes it more difficult. Valerie Van Isler, WBAI station manager -Talks about the history of Pacifica. Over the last year, through the work of the listeners, Pacifica has succeeded in coming back and it's time to return the office to Berkeley. We are now a position to make a proper move. [ ] Jim Bennent, KPFA station manager -Earlier this year, Pacifica turned to him and Van Isler for financial guidance. Urges the board not to let power politics contribute to it's disjunction of the board. [ laughter, applause] Brian Deshaser, Archives -Was in L.A. when finance office was hijacked. There was an aborted attempt to take the archives which fortunately didn't happen. No one from the former L.A... [didn't get this part] Debbie Speer, KFCF Reads statement -The KFCF board is displeased with the iPNB for blocking the move back to Berkeley. Had issued statement supporting the move back in Feb. It has had negative effect financially on KFCF. Duane Bradley, KPFT station manager -The structure that the listeners built in Berkeley lays empty. KPFT wouldn't of survived without the support of KPFT. The office needs to be set up so as to get a working national staff in place. Not having the national staff has been a major problem for the station managers. Berkeley is the rightful home of the Pacifica. [ applause ] Tony R , WPFW station manager -Concerned that Pacifica fully support WPFW, to not leave them alone in the belly of the beast. Supports leaving some form of national office in D.C. Supports working out a timetable. Hopes for a Pacifica national news presence in D.C. Cagan - No matter where the office is, the staff will still need to be rebuilt? Coughlin - Yes, more or less. We haven't hired permanent staff. As station managers said, this needs to happen. We are ready to go Allen - Concerned with healing at Pacifica. Also feels that if motivated the money can easily be found. Concerned with institutional memory, time to move is now because we know what went down in Berkeley. Supports move. [ applause ] Jabari is rightly concerned with examine the big picture. Supports the opponents of moving sooner call for time table, including national development. Couglin - National development/programming was given as the main priority in the executive director report yesterday. A plan for weekly national new program on the war issues. Assures a commitment to [ applause ] Cagan - Hopes that there has been adequate discussion which would mean that the national office may proceed with the planning, unless there is a motion to the contrary. Barry - When would the move take place? Cagan - The ED would come up with the assessment. Barry - Would there be national news staff in D.C. Couglin - Yes. (in form of national news program) Zakiya - The financial logic given for the move isn't accurate. There needs to be a new motion to nullify the motion to suspend the planning. Barnstone - Supports national news office in D.C. Coughlin - There are various national news solutions in the works. Barnstone - Supports national news office in D.C. Fertig - The iPNB has agreed to move, the question is when. LaForest - How does complying with the accountant Ross Wisdom's recommendations affect the planning? Couglin - Wisdom's recommended move time of March is realistic. Some of the hiring would start before. Bryant - What would the vision thing have to be? [to Rob, George, Jabari] [laughter ] Barnstone - Robinson - The iPNB has to get input from the listeners as to what the vision should be. Discussions needed. Bryant - Is that happening the deal breaker for you Rob and George? Cagan - Ferguson - Supports perhaps that the $1.5 million debt be dealt with before moving. The move is a major item that is beyond the scope of what the iPNB is charged. LaForest - announces that Bob Lederers's mother has died. -- moment of silence -- [ Bob receives many hugs as the meeting proceeds ] Spooner - We need to discuss vision well into the future. It doesn't need to delay the move back to Berkeley. Also concerned about finances. The listener have been the financial support and their wishes to move back must be acknowledged. The $1.5 million is irrelevant There IS a timetable in the board packet. Gives rundown of plan and how staff will be put into place etc. The accountant has said that this plan will accelerate establishing stability. Cagan - The motion for the move still stands unless there is a motion to change Barry - Points out that the move would "completed" by March, things would be started before. Barnstone - Would be satisfied as long as accountant's advice is followed. Cagan - Does Jabari have a date? Zakiya - No, it there isn't any real financial data. Cagan - Does Rob have a date? Robinson - Supports working with ED Cagan - MOTION: that iPNB approves the completion of the move of the national office by March as by accountants' recommendations and instructs the excessive director to resume planning and implementation. All for, except: against-Zakiya [ applause as each of the former opponents votes yes ] MOTION PASSES [ standing ovation and cheers] CHAIR calls for 11 minute break 11:55 am reconvene Chair Cagan - This morning's proceeding nicely demonstrates the need and benefit from having open meetings as it facilitates reaching consensus and reaching resolutions. Thanks the stations that are broadcasting etc. There is not enough time to finish the agenda, need to schedule another meetingto continue work on bylaws. Ask for proposals and input for planning. Spooner - supports a date when at least 10 board members can show up. Goes through calendar. Discussion ... Decide on October 13,14 - will research the cheapest location etc. Chair Cagan - Robin Lewis -KPFA LAB -will subcommittee people be part of the bylaws meeting? A: yes STATION REPORTS (1) KPFT Duane Bradley, station manager - Reports on fund raising goals. Reports on staff developments Otis McClay appointed fulltime Program director. [ cheers, applause ] 128 volunteer on-air staff [ cheers, applause ] Fledgling KPFT news staff (currently broadcasts once a week) has already made a difference. A story on Palestian family being evicted was picked up nationally and in local press and acted on by local politicians. [ applause ] Working on resolving the conflicts in the KPFT community. Developing a code of conduct. Quotes George dubbya, "We are relentless, we are strong, we shall prevail" [ cheers, applause ] Bryant - Thanks for code of conduct. Why KPFT not broadcasting the meeting? Bradley - Too disruptive at this point in the evolution process at KPFT, especially right before upcoming fundraiser. Deb Shafto, KPFT LAB chair -Talks about process. There has been a consensus that a larger number of people in KPFT governance is important. Power in too few hands bad. Important that more people be heard. Supports iPNB appointing a national coordinator for diversity. KPFT Comunity Comment: Akua Holt -Ideas from her community have been implemented. Prisons issues,prisons, death penalty, hiv in prisons, black programming. Chris Simpson, KPFT volunteer -Feels things have improved at the station. Concerned Robert Mohammed, "Connect the Dots" program -We have to stop the bickering locally, and nationally. [passionate] We must pull ourselves together, we need to be the voice for the voiceless etc. Michael Pimental -Welcome to everyone, thanks the board for a mostly constructive meeting. Concerned with spending of funds on a conflict that involves people no longer at the station. Anel Wialliams, programmer -Has returned to KPFT but concerned that there is still there is much resistance to change. Concerned that the programming that would produce the proper audience hasn't been in place yet, too soon for good election. Concerned with some of the proposed elections bylaws. Ken Freeland -Clarifies the purpose of aforementioned fact finding thing... (2) WPFW, , LAB chair, community comment Tony Regusters, interim general manager -Tech infrastructure problems still exist, though somewhat stabilized. Transmitter knocked out 5 times this year, once right before special programming. Request funding for backup transmitter and moving transmitter. [shares location with secret service!!] Local news programming getting stronger. Developing wpfx webcast station to be used for community access, training etc. Developing fundraising. Spooner - Has there been any help from Don Muscle, Pacifica engineer? Tony - Not yet. Working on it. Sam Husseini, LAB chair. -Considers working on WPFW news dept. a priority. Tensions between LAB and management continue, hopefully planned program council will help with that. LAB supports jazz at the station, but wants to further expand programming. Supports working with the D.C. indymedia center. Cagan - iPNB might consider making editorial in support of D.C. statehood [ applause ] WPFW community comment: Rhyme, WBIX - The D.C. listenership has been fired, massive outreach effort needed. (3) WBAI Valerie Van Isler, station manager -Record fund raising this year. Brought back 6,000 new subscribers. Credits staff and volunteers. Programming has and is being revised. Staff - 67% is of "minority" groups, 32% female. Feels that national office has been supportive of WBAI and vise versa. Hopes that iPNB continues to work as it has. WBAI's commitment is to continue to rebuild and connect with the other stations. The mission is both a tool and a weapon.... [ applause] Miguel Maldanado, LAB chair - Welcomes Valerie's sentiment that the iPNB continues the process... Reports on the general manager search committee. Down to 2 finalist. A recommendation coming next month. Bylaws revision sub-committee, would liked to of been more involved. Hope to improve of LAB involvement on program council and folio. Has been one LAB on-air show that went well. LAB resolutions supporting FSRN, and diversity. WBAI listener comment: Deena Kolberg -Supports instead of reporting the pledges made, report actual money coming in. Fred Nyguen - Eve Moser -Please remember when working on the bylaws that all 5 signal areas have expressed that they want NO appointed seats. The Unity Caucus constituency model allows a member to vote for only a fraction of the number of board seats being elected. All 5 signal areas want 'one person, one vote', whereby members elect ALL board seats, because this gives maximum accountability to the people who care most about Pacifica, and that is what will best safeguard the Foundation's ability to pursue Pacifica's mission. Carolyn Birden -supports a national broadcast to effectively educate the listeners with regard to elections at Pacifica. Didn't previously, but now supports move to Berkeley. Thanks for the iPNB editorial on the death penalty. Against motions that allows for different elections procedures for different listener areas. Plugs wbai.net and Coalition for a democratic Pacifica - NY hotline [ (212) 465-7562 ] Patty Heffley Supports one elections procedure for all listening areas. Informs people to email their documents presented at this weekend's meeting to wbai.net [ ] for posting and acknowledges me (Roger M) the editor [ applause - thanks very much ] Raises concerns over the Democracy Now! contract. Urges that it be entirely reconsidered. Andrea Fishman - thanks Leslie Cagan for inviting people to the special bylaws meetings. The bylaws programming at WBAI has mostly not been strong, and listeners have not had enough input in putting them together. The listeners who have been working very hard on bylaws revision have much of value to contribute the iPNB's process, so please keep them included. Fahima (WPFW) -The D.C area has yet to pass judgement on the constituency model as it hadn't had a proper hearing in D.C. Cerene Roberts -There are no appointed seats in the constituency model. Quotes Spooner "democracy is not the priority at Pacifica, the mission is" Bob Lederer - Gratitude for compassion from everyone regarding his mother's death. Grateful for all his experience at Pacifica... [ applause ] Errol Maitland -Is grateful for dissenting votes on today's iPNB. Absent in the past. We need to continue dialogue and evolution of Pacifica. Criticized opponents of the constituency model as being against important things and acting improperly. Roger Manning -The opponents of the constituency model that I've talked to are actually in agreement with about 90% of what the model wants. No one is against diversity, the principles of the constituency model and the direct election model are the same, it is the method that is different. (4) KPFK Eva Georgia, station manager -Pacifica needs to continue expressing human issues. Reports signal conflicts with Los Angeles station KUSC who is planning to broadcast into Mexico and back into CA with very strong signal from station who already interfering with KPFK signal. Thanks listeners for financial support. Have been bringing back multi-lingual programming. Have developed more of a relationship with the Pacifica archive and KPFK LAB. Folio will be back. Supports 800 number for listener comment at iPNB meetings. Proposes that Pacifica become more pro-active against Iraq war perhaps in the form of a peace march. Allen - Lydia Brazon, LAB chair -Recent adding of people to the LAB was not "stacking", but resulted in much more diverse LAB, racially, gender, and staff. Great momentum with various collectives. Station manager involved. LAB supports bylaws convention a year after bylaws adoption. Had a 2 day bylaws convention where much concensus was reached document forthcoming. Summarizes some items... Eva Georgia - Reason why there is a deficit despite record fundraising is that budget has increased. Spooner - Does the new iPNB approved budget reflect this? A: yes KPFK public comment: Tom Camerella, LAB -Urges people to come to the iPNB meeting to have input and help sort things out. Eben Rey, LAB -It's the staff that through it all keeps things on the mission. We all need unions in Pacifica and to work on work place democracy with programming councils etc. The KPFA staff has agreed to take paycut and do extra fundraising to prevent the staff from shrinking and becoming less effective. The "Shubites" are gone and the staff cares about unity and good work. Bernie Eisenberg -Supports the station manager etc but there are still "Shubites" at KPFK. Critical of various programs/programmers who, while they may present alternative points of view, they are not addressing Pacifica's mission and in fact are opposed. Sites Ian Masters who has been recently awarded more airtime. Accuses Masters of red-baiting. Fernando Velasquez - Props to Bob Lederer and his mother. Important that any candidates are chosen based on their commitment to peace and the principles of the Pacifica mission. Mansor -Supports airing of the upcoming special iPNB bylaws meeting and that a phone # and email be set up for listener comment. We need to get to the issues outside of Pacifica. Thanks for the great meeting. Tracy Larkins -The bylaws revision process has brought together factions in L.A. Thanks to people responsible. Thanks to KPFK management for improvement in programming. Feels that there is a strong conflict of interested in having staff on governance boards. Supports more public affairs programming and unscreened listener call-ins. Margalo - Believes that the KPFK bylaws draft is the most democratic. Members must be able to vote on bylaws changes in order to have full and complete democracy. The process at the KPFK bylaws convention facilitated much harmony. Raphael Renteria and Leslie Radford -Important to grasp what happened at KPFK. The most important thing learned is what the bylaws revision should be. There needs to be a bylaws convention in a year. Leslie - Urges the iPNB to move today to establish the bylaws convention. (5) KPFA Jim Bennet, Station manager -gives legal ids for the 5 stations. Urges national office to re-examine the the definition and duties of the national program director and that it would be better not to have a national PD. Talks about the KPFA's program councils' procedure which includes regular evaluations. This process is for helping improve programming, not just for removing bad programming. Susan Desilva, LAB -Thanks the board for listening to each other and the public regarding the move back to Berkeley. The LAB struggles to keep up with the workload. A good station manager search committee. KPFA bylaws revision subcommittee supports a strong boards, that this will strengthen the national. Against any appointed seats, feels that diversity is effectively implemented using proportional representation. The KPFA LAB feels that all she the Democracy Now! contract should seen by all before it's signed. Steve Coneley -Reports on diversity committee at KPFA. KPFA needs quite a bit of diversity and this is agreed upon. A lot to be done, progress has clearly been made. Ted Friedman -Pleased with the new harmony at the meeting and the network. KPFA is offering up their elections methods to the network. Mary Berg -Supports reevaluation of national program director function. Against large national staff. Feels that basic elements of the constituency model elections are divisive. Chandra Hauptman -Praises the iPNB the board for conducting process democratically. Would save costs at the stations to do some of the national work locally. Willie Ratcliff, LAB co-chair -Making much progress in the diversity committee. Largely because of involving people(listeners) and respecting them. Supports proportional representation on the PNB [applause] Maria Galardin -Thanks the iPNB for the office move decision. Appalled at the size of the proposed national staff. Don't need a national PD. The resources are better used locally. Pleads with the iPNB to properly rectify mistakes of the Democracy Now contract. Supports a programming convention amongst the 5 stations [ applause ] On racism; we all are living in a colony society, all participants in this system. Racism won't be resolved until native americans are properly included. Jane Jackson -Thanks to Leslie Cagan for all her activist work and Jabari for his contribution to the office move issue. Props to Mumia Abul Jamal... reads statement power to the people, not corporate government.... Quotes Barbara Lubin (reporter) as joking about have to go to Iraq to cover the news, "at least I don't have to Pacifica national board meeting" [ laughter ] Chair Cagan - with regard to national staffing, the budget approved this weekend is to be re-examined and refined, including the national staff. Suggests tabling the request for voting on national bylaws convention till the special bylaws meeting in 3 weeks. Some discussion... move agenda. Barnstone - Wants discussion on Washington new bureau MOTION:That the iPNB express support for a news bureau in D.C PASSES unanimously Race and Nationality next steps in this work Adrienne Lauby, KPFA -Gives overview of report * Strong work in the KPFA area, results from all the signal areas. Much of the work revolves around bylaws. Also working on hiring policy Established an unmoderated list at thespring@yahoo.groups.com Encourage the listening areas to compile data. Lack of staff meetings at stations impedes progress. Ask iPNB to: -mandate diversity committees in each area -direct national staff to produce national diversity program -coordinate the efforts of the 5 areas -need some funding for professional trainers, some travel expenses ... Raphael Renteria -It's a complex process. Has faith that KPFK is committed to the task and it will succeed. It is essential that the leadership has the will and empowerment to deal the issues. Steve Coneley -It's a complex process. Ted Wiesgal, KPFT -The Houston Peace News, small publication is part of the effort in Houston. Committees are being formed to deal with these issues. Currently only white males during KPFT drive time. Optimistic though. Quasi, KPFT LAB -A lot education work needed. Pacifica has to set a proper example. Compliments the board on this meeting La Forest - Speaks to lack of promotion for the iPNB meeting and lack of attendance of minority communities and as to why this location [Warwick hotel] was chosen. ______, KPFT LAB It was the most practical and cost effective location. Chair Cagan - asks for comments from the iPNB on the 5 Race and Nationality proposals before them Consensus: for setting up a national Race and Nationality committee determine reps from each area for the committee. MOTION: mandate for LABs to set up local Race and Nationality committees PASSES 10 for 1 abstain ...Rather involved discussion regarding establishing a short term national staff person to coordinate Race and Nationality efforts including some related national programming and the whole concept in general... Spooner - Asks the very active Race and Nationality committee in the KPFA area to do the national coordinating in the interim, provided the other LABs approve MOTION: to accept the offer of the KPFA Race and Nationality committee to temporarily fund and coordinate the national Race and Nationality effort and seek grant money. Zakiya - Brings some issues with the process iPNB making a motion in support of this process when there is no solid outcome. ... much back and forth... Spooner calls the question Vote proceeds MOTION PASSES 10 for , 1 abstain [ aplause ] Chair Cagan - We will reconvene in 3 weeks [ to work on bylaws revision ]. Cerene Roberts - brings up point of information that the weekend falls in the middle of several fund drives confusion and talking and meeting seems to adjourn?? (everyone up, walking around and talking) 3:50pm Adjourned I guess... It's been a pretty good meeting. Many people pleased. Positive mood in general Roger Manning, NYC |
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